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		<title>By: tekkie</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-96296</link>
		<dc:creator>tekkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;entities are surely not the best available option to obfuscate as you can all also confirm from &lt;a href=&quot;http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/07/20/ten-methods-to-obfuscate-e-mail-addresses-compared/&quot; title=&quot;Nine ways to obfuscate e-mail addresses compared&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this chart&lt;/a&gt;.


Mac OS X Dashboard widget called &lt;a href=&quot;http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net&quot; title=&quot;obfuscatr - email address obfuscator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obfuscatr&lt;/a&gt; provides JavaScript encoding, which is much more safe than the one described above. The other possible option is just plain hexadecimal encoding of your email addy, similarly to above. So 2 alternatives available from &lt;a href=&quot;http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net&quot; title=&quot;obfuscatr - email address obfuscator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obfuscatr&lt;/a&gt;. See the details at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tekkie.flashbit.net/mac-os/obfuscatr-110-released&quot; title=&quot;obfuscatr 1.1.0 released&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;flash tekkie&lt;/a&gt;.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net&quot; title=&quot;obfuscatr - email address obfuscator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obfuscatr&lt;/a&gt; was also &lt;a href=&quot;http://tekkie.flashbit.net/mac-os/obfuscatr-featured-in-macworld&quot; title=&quot;obfuscatr featured in Macworld&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;featured in MacWorld&lt;/a&gt; Italy of March 2008.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="caps">HTML </span>entities are surely not the best available option to obfuscate as you can all also confirm from <a href="http://techblog.tilllate.com/2008/07/20/ten-methods-to-obfuscate-e-mail-addresses-compared/" title="Nine ways to obfuscate e-mail addresses compared" rel="nofollow">this chart</a>.</p>
<p>Mac OS X Dashboard widget called <a href="http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net" title="obfuscatr - email address obfuscator" rel="nofollow">obfuscatr</a> provides JavaScript encoding, which is much more safe than the one described above. The other possible option is just plain hexadecimal encoding of your email addy, similarly to above. So 2 alternatives available from <a href="http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net" title="obfuscatr - email address obfuscator" rel="nofollow">obfuscatr</a>. See the details at <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/mac-os/obfuscatr-110-released" title="obfuscatr 1.1.0 released" rel="nofollow">flash tekkie</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://obfuscatr.flashbit.net" title="obfuscatr - email address obfuscator" rel="nofollow">obfuscatr</a> was also <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/mac-os/obfuscatr-featured-in-macworld" title="obfuscatr featured in Macworld" rel="nofollow">featured in MacWorld</a> Italy of March 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-2826</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;After Stu came up with the ultra-cool email address obfuscation method through &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CSS&lt;/span&gt;
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Just wanted to say that the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CSS &lt;/span&gt;email obfuscation doesn&#039;t work in Safari (v. 1.2.4)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>After Stu came up with the ultra-cool email address obfuscation method through <span class="caps">CSS</span>
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<p>Just wanted to say that the <span class="caps">CSS </span>email obfuscation doesn&#8217;t work in Safari (v. 1.2.4)</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen it, Mathias, it&#039;s very nice. Good addition.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen it, Mathias, it&#8217;s very nice. Good addition.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathias Bynens</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-2824</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathias Bynens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After Stu came up with the ultra-cool email address obfuscation method through &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CSS,&lt;/span&gt; I quickly wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathibus.com/archives/2005/02/26/obfuscating-email/&quot; title=&quot;Obfuscating Email Addresses&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the &lt;code&gt;obfuscate_email()&lt;/code&gt; PHP function&lt;/a&gt;. And today, I uploaded &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathibus.com/tools/obfuscator/&quot; title=&quot;Email Obfuscator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my very own email obfuscator&lt;/a&gt;. As if there weren&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1806&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;enough already&lt;/a&gt;, I know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After Stu came up with the ultra-cool email address obfuscation method through <span class="caps">CSS,</span> I quickly wrote <a href="http://mathibus.com/archives/2005/02/26/obfuscating-email/" title="Obfuscating Email Addresses" rel="nofollow">the <code>obfuscate_email()</code> PHP function</a>. And today, I uploaded <a href="http://mathibus.com/tools/obfuscator/" title="Email Obfuscator" rel="nofollow">my very own email obfuscator</a>. As if there weren&#8217;t <a href="#comment-1806" rel="nofollow">enough already</a>, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d pitch in another side to the story. Phil Ringnalda did an unscientific test of using &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;encoding vs. plain text email, and the suprising conclusion is that &lt;a href=&quot;http://philringnalda.com/blog/2005/03/spammers_are_lazy.php&quot;&gt;spammers are lazy&lt;/a&gt; . 


To extent on his conclusion, however, he did receive some spam on the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;encoded address. This means he would start getting a lot more spam once his address has been sold and bought.


My original points still hold, but I guess we can conclude that using &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;encoded or Javascript obfuscated addresses is safer than simple plain text mailto links.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d pitch in another side to the story. Phil Ringnalda did an unscientific test of using <span class="caps">HTML </span>encoding vs. plain text email, and the suprising conclusion is that <a href="http://philringnalda.com/blog/2005/03/spammers_are_lazy.php">spammers are lazy</a> . </p>
<p>To extent on his conclusion, however, he did receive some spam on the <span class="caps">HTML </span>encoded address. This means he would start getting a lot more spam once his address has been sold and bought.</p>
<p>My original points still hold, but I guess we can conclude that using <span class="caps">HTML </span>encoded or Javascript obfuscated addresses is safer than simple plain text mailto links.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just such a hassle to spam someone using their contact form&#8230;


 


 


 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just such a hassle to spam someone using their contact form&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you would too &#8230; using my &lt;a href=&quot;/colophon/#contact&quot;&gt;contact form&lt;/a&gt; !


 


 


 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you would too &#8230; using my <a href="/colophon/#contact">contact form</a> !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing I got your email before you did that, otherwise I wouldn&#039;t be able to spam you&#8230;


 


 


 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing I got your email before you did that, otherwise I wouldn&#8217;t be able to spam you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-1869</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 22:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jonas, for adding these links and these comments. 


As a direct consequence, I have removed my JS &quot;protected&quot; email script from my colophon. Now only the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;PHP &lt;/span&gt;contact form remains. 


 


 


 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jonas, for adding these links and these comments. </p>
<p>As a direct consequence, I have removed my JS &#8220;protected&#8221; email script from my colophon. Now only the <span class="caps">PHP </span>contact form remains.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/unspammable-email-addresses/comment-page-1#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 21:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encoding your email address is &lt;em&gt;security through obscurity&lt;/em&gt; which is, if not problematic, at least controversial. The wiki entry for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity&quot;&gt;security through obscurity&lt;/a&gt; likens it to hiding a spare key under your doormat. In theory anyone can enter your house using the spare key, but you rely on the hiding place being secret. Encoding your email address as &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;entities is very much the same. Just as the doormat is one of the first places a burglar would look, &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;entities are easily recognized and converted to reveal the email address. The same is in fact the case for javascript functions. Any javascript interpreter will be able to interpret the javascript and reveal the email address.


Additionally, javascript functions and &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HTML &lt;/span&gt;entities are becoming quite wide spread solutions. As more and more people use these two methods of protecting their addresses the spammers will, and already have, account for them in their tools.


The only way of attaining security through obscurity is to make it really obscure. Find your own way of hiding your address and don&#039;t share it with anyone. If you are the only person hiding your address in one specific fashion, a spammer has less to gain by specifying that obfuscation in his tool as he would only obtain one more address. 


Additional resources:


&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Matt Pritchard&lt;/em&gt; ? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20000724/pritchard_pfv.htm&quot;&gt;How to hurt the hackers&lt;/a&gt; (look at rule # 5 and the preceding text)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bruce Perens&lt;/em&gt; ? &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/features/980720/0819202.shtml&quot;&gt;Slashdot &#124;?Feature : Security Through Obscurity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
 

 

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Encoding your email address is <em>security through obscurity</em> which is, if not problematic, at least controversial. The wiki entry for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity">security through obscurity</a> likens it to hiding a spare key under your doormat. In theory anyone can enter your house using the spare key, but you rely on the hiding place being secret. Encoding your email address as <span class="caps">HTML </span>entities is very much the same. Just as the doormat is one of the first places a burglar would look, <span class="caps">HTML </span>entities are easily recognized and converted to reveal the email address. The same is in fact the case for javascript functions. Any javascript interpreter will be able to interpret the javascript and reveal the email address.</p>
<p>Additionally, javascript functions and <span class="caps">HTML </span>entities are becoming quite wide spread solutions. As more and more people use these two methods of protecting their addresses the spammers will, and already have, account for them in their tools.</p>
<p>The only way of attaining security through obscurity is to make it really obscure. Find your own way of hiding your address and don&#8217;t share it with anyone. If you are the only person hiding your address in one specific fashion, a spammer has less to gain by specifying that obfuscation in his tool as he would only obtain one more address. </p>
<p>Additional resources:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>Matt Pritchard</em> ? <a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20000724/pritchard_pfv.htm">How to hurt the hackers</a> (look at rule # 5 and the preceding text)</li>
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<li><em>Bruce Perens</em> ? <a href="http://slashdot.org/features/980720/0819202.shtml">Slashdot |?Feature : Security Through Obscurity</a></li>
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