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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-2#comment-11946</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZenPhoto for win
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-5693</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teddy, 


I responded to you in the other thread:


http://www.noscope.com/journal/2005/08/zenphoto#comment-5690
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, </p>
<p>I responded to you in the other thread:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noscope.com/journal/2005/08/zenphoto#comment-5690" rel="nofollow">http://www.noscope.com/journal/2005/08/zenphoto#comment-5690</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-5692</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am also looking for a new Photo Gallery and the articles here are very interesting, to say the least.

I&#039;m looking forward to trying a few of these over the holidays, but I wanted to ask if it is possible to show &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EXIF &lt;/span&gt;data when using Zenphoto?


kind regards

teddy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am also looking for a new Photo Gallery and the articles here are very interesting, to say the least.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to trying a few of these over the holidays, but I wanted to ask if it is possible to show <span class="caps">EXIF </span>data when using Zenphoto?</p>
<p>kind regards</p>
<p>teddy</p>
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		<title>By: iPAP progress [rebelpixel productions]</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3535</link>
		<dc:creator>iPAP progress [rebelpixel productions]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iPAP now has comments, thanks to Mathias&#039;s wonderful work. A million thanks, my friend! This is one of the most sought&#8211;after feature, requested in almost every email inquiry I receive concerning the photo app. Development has slowed down significantly the past week with spare coding time becoming very uncommon. But I managed to squeeze in &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ZIP &lt;/span&gt;uploads last weekend, something for everyone to play with when I pack another release this weekend. Hopefully. For now, have a look at this nice WP/iPAP powered site by a fellow Filipino. Rannie, we&#039;ll be waiting for more photos. As a side note, zen photo&#039;s development is going well. Nice to see another elegant photo publishing solution like iPAP. [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] iPAP now has comments, thanks to Mathias&#8217;s wonderful work. A million thanks, my friend! This is one of the most sought&#8211;after feature, requested in almost every email inquiry I receive concerning the photo app. Development has slowed down significantly the past week with spare coding time becoming very uncommon. But I managed to squeeze in <span class="caps">ZIP </span>uploads last weekend, something for everyone to play with when I pack another release this weekend. Hopefully. For now, have a look at this nice WP/iPAP powered site by a fellow Filipino. Rannie, we&#8217;ll be waiting for more photos. As a side note, zen photo&#8217;s development is going well. Nice to see another elegant photo publishing solution like iPAP. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Effervescent Reflections &#187; Actually Doing Things</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3528</link>
		<dc:creator>Effervescent Reflections &#187; Actually Doing Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of my projects is to revamp my art gallery which has been using the same static design since the beginning. I have been looking into many gallery &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CMS&lt;/span&gt;&#039;s but none of the solutions seem appropriate. As I delved deeper into this issue I found I am not the only one in this situation. Joen at Noscope.com has outlined the problem better than anyone. Today I am leaning towards Tristan&#039;s rapidly developping software called Zenphoto. I&#039;ll keep you guys updated on this one. [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of my projects is to revamp my art gallery which has been using the same static design since the beginning. I have been looking into many gallery <span class="caps">CMS</span>&#8217;s but none of the solutions seem appropriate. As I delved deeper into this issue I found I am not the only one in this situation. Joen at Noscope.com has outlined the problem better than anyone. Today I am leaning towards Tristan&#8217;s rapidly developping software called Zenphoto. I&#8217;ll keep you guys updated on this one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AkaXakA</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>AkaXakA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2005 08:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; sounds good Tristan!

As Jonas said, get cracking!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now <strong>that</strong> sounds good Tristan!</p>
<p>As Jonas said, get cracking!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rabbe</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3320</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas Rabbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 07:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought of quite the elegant way to monitor new albums and uploaded images.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It does indeed sound elegant. My computer science experience gives a warm thumbs up, so get cracking already ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I thought of quite the elegant way to monitor new albums and uploaded images.
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<p>It does indeed sound elegant. My computer science experience gives a warm thumbs up, so get cracking already ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3316</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 22:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan, 


&lt;small&gt;Head shaking in the affirmative&lt;/small&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan, </p>
<p><small>Head shaking in the affirmative</small></p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3315</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 21:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picking up...


&lt;strong&gt;Chris&lt;/strong&gt; (#11) - I think you&#039;re thinking a little too much into the database - I&#039;ll just be storing metadata. Lots of text, in other words. So, title, description, all comments, tags, etc. It&#039;s independent of the image folder structure. Ideally, I&#039;ll design it so that the data in the database gets initialized to some default values when a new album or image is seen (one that doesn&#039;t already have an entry in the db) and the admin can further customize it once the images are uploaded and albums created.


I thought through the implementation of this a lot last night, and it seems like a managable task. I thought of quite the elegant way to monitor new albums and uploaded images. Essentially, I&#039;ll use an object-oriented model, and each image will be an object, as will each album, and each &quot;group&quot; or arbitrary set of images from the gallery. When the album is viewed, I use the &lt;em&gt;folder structure&lt;/em&gt; to find which photos to display (using a single album as an example) and make a new Image object for each of them. The Image object&#039;s constructor takes the filename (full path), looks it up in the database, and if it exists, then it uses the existing metadata. Otherwise, it makes some default info out of the file/folder names and makes a new database entry. Then (this is the cool part) depending on the size of the image requested (thumbnail, normal size, full size, or even &lt;em&gt;custom size&lt;/em&gt;) it processes the original image into that size and caches the resized image so it doesn&#039;t have to be processed at that size again. This way, one of photostack&#039;s biggest weaknesses is killed -- photos are now processed on the fly as required instead of all at once, which causes server timeouts.


&lt;strong&gt;Jonas&lt;/strong&gt; (#13) - Password protection isn&#039;t something I&#039;m going to implement at least in the first version. I could allow you to hide individual photos or albums from the public, but I&#039;d rather not go further than that. Joen is right about .htpasswd being the best solution for those kind of things - just make a new gallery in a new folder and protect it that way. Pretty easy.


&lt;strong&gt;Joen&lt;/strong&gt; (#14) - I&#039;ll be back to my own site soon enough (with a full spec sheet); it&#039;s just so much easier to post here with your little preview thing. ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking up&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Chris</strong> (#11) &#8211; I think you&#8217;re thinking a little too much into the database &#8211; I&#8217;ll just be storing metadata. Lots of text, in other words. So, title, description, all comments, tags, etc. It&#8217;s independent of the image folder structure. Ideally, I&#8217;ll design it so that the data in the database gets initialized to some default values when a new album or image is seen (one that doesn&#8217;t already have an entry in the db) and the admin can further customize it once the images are uploaded and albums created.</p>
<p>I thought through the implementation of this a lot last night, and it seems like a managable task. I thought of quite the elegant way to monitor new albums and uploaded images. Essentially, I&#8217;ll use an object-oriented model, and each image will be an object, as will each album, and each &#8220;group&#8221; or arbitrary set of images from the gallery. When the album is viewed, I use the <em>folder structure</em> to find which photos to display (using a single album as an example) and make a new Image object for each of them. The Image object&#8217;s constructor takes the filename (full path), looks it up in the database, and if it exists, then it uses the existing metadata. Otherwise, it makes some default info out of the file/folder names and makes a new database entry. Then (this is the cool part) depending on the size of the image requested (thumbnail, normal size, full size, or even <em>custom size</em>) it processes the original image into that size and caches the resized image so it doesn&#8217;t have to be processed at that size again. This way, one of photostack&#8217;s biggest weaknesses is killed &#8212; photos are now processed on the fly as required instead of all at once, which causes server timeouts.</p>
<p><strong>Jonas</strong> (#13) &#8211; Password protection isn&#8217;t something I&#8217;m going to implement at least in the first version. I could allow you to hide individual photos or albums from the public, but I&#8217;d rather not go further than that. Joen is right about .htpasswd being the best solution for those kind of things &#8211; just make a new gallery in a new folder and protect it that way. Pretty easy.</p>
<p><strong>Joen</strong> (#14) &#8211; I&#8217;ll be back to my own site soon enough (with a full spec sheet); it&#8217;s just so much easier to post here with your little preview thing. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2005/05/ultimate-photo-cms/comment-page-1#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 21:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Chris&lt;/strong&gt;,


I&#039;m not quite sure I understand what you mean. My main reason for thinking we should not put effort into password features is that &quot;people hate having to log in&quot;. They hate even more &quot;secret areas out of their reach&quot;. By that I mean that showing an album that not all people have access to is likely to only irritate them... For the very same reason I&#039;m keeping a personal photo gallery in a non public directory.


&lt;strong&gt;Steve&lt;/strong&gt;,


Great to hear from you. Congratulations on the baby! I hope things are well with you and yours.


I haven&#039;t encountered SlideShowPro?


Edit (Admin privilege): I just logged in to my Bloglines account to check everything was dandy... I couldn&#039;t find any problems? The problem &lt;strong&gt;might&lt;/strong&gt; be related to my feeds changing address, but the old addresses should be redirecting... 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Chris</strong>,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure I understand what you mean. My main reason for thinking we should not put effort into password features is that &#8220;people hate having to log in&#8221;. They hate even more &#8220;secret areas out of their reach&#8221;. By that I mean that showing an album that not all people have access to is likely to only irritate them&#8230; For the very same reason I&#8217;m keeping a personal photo gallery in a non public directory.</p>
<p><strong>Steve</strong>,</p>
<p>Great to hear from you. Congratulations on the baby! I hope things are well with you and yours.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t encountered SlideShowPro?</p>
<p>Edit (Admin privilege): I just logged in to my Bloglines account to check everything was dandy&#8230; I couldn&#8217;t find any problems? The problem <strong>might</strong> be related to my feeds changing address, but the old addresses should be redirecting&#8230;</p>
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