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		<title>By: Elden Louis Steele III</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2007/02/jesus-camp-mini-review/comment-page-1#comment-58699</link>
		<dc:creator>Elden Louis Steele III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Joen,


I, once again, completely agree with you.  My only consolation is that I too was reared in a hyper-religious/bible-to-be-literally interpreted environment.  The short version, I came to realize that unquestioning faith was incompatible with my curious mind.  What&#039;s more, I simply cannot abide those who believe that their way, their belief system is absolutely perfect for everyone, everywhere, at all times.  Finally, in my studies, it was obvious to me that translation from one language to another could be, and often times is, fraught with problems.  To think that there is a group like the one mentioned above, makes me think that at best they are misguided and desparate for a sense of security, and at worst, a nasty freakish cult.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Joen,</p>
<p>I, once again, completely agree with you.  My only consolation is that I too was reared in a hyper-religious/bible-to-be-literally interpreted environment.  The short version, I came to realize that unquestioning faith was incompatible with my curious mind.  What&#8217;s more, I simply cannot abide those who believe that their way, their belief system is absolutely perfect for everyone, everywhere, at all times.  Finally, in my studies, it was obvious to me that translation from one language to another could be, and often times is, fraught with problems.  To think that there is a group like the one mentioned above, makes me think that at best they are misguided and desparate for a sense of security, and at worst, a nasty freakish cult.</p>
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		<title>By: James AkaXakA</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2007/02/jesus-camp-mini-review/comment-page-1#comment-58642</link>
		<dc:creator>James AkaXakA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Isn?t it a matter of rejecting all other religions than christianity?

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Obviously, but you need to give them something specific to screw with their minds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Isn?t it a matter of rejecting all other religions than christianity?</p>
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<p>Obviously, but you need to give them something specific to screw with their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2007/02/jesus-camp-mini-review/comment-page-1#comment-58564</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are they rejecting Buddha?
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Isn&#039;t it a matter of rejecting all other religions than christianity?


&lt;blockquote&gt;He he ... the funny thing is that there is a Google ad on this page promising to teach me how to speak in tongues :) (Why go to camp?)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hehe, I wonder if they teach you how to &quot;impro&quot;, and how to make it sound as though there&#039;s no repeating pattern...


&lt;blockquote&gt;

At least telling someone that there is a God who loves them and they should help others will actually benefit our world and not harm it as much as the alternatives...


Basically, I would rather be a Christian told to love others than a Muslim told to kill others.

I would rather be a Christian told to give money to support the poor than a proper businessman told to only care about the bottom line.


So, if all you can do is complain about the ?brainwashed? help that Christians have given the world - I say you haven?t seen enough of this world yet. ;]


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The idea that &lt;em&gt;good moral&lt;/em&gt; values are unique to christians is narrowminded, and makes me want to say &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; haven&#039;t seen enough of this world yet. 


Every single being, even those of us who are faithless, have a sense of right and wrong (except maybe psychopaths, by definition).


Who says you have to be a christian to donate to charity? I&#039;ve donated to Amnesty and Unicef on a monthly automated basis for 4 years now, and I&#039;ve been agnostic one of those years, and atheist the rest. There &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; actually more types of people than terrorists, christians, and &quot;proper businessmen that only care about the bottom line&quot;.


Being godless, I feel a genuine sense of wonder at the complexity of our world. The idea that tiny particles have created plants, animals, people, stars and galaxies is mindboggling and very fulfilling. I suppose some would call this sense of wonder &quot;god&quot;, but even as an atheist I can marvel at it, and &lt;em&gt;see&lt;/em&gt; why this world is worth protecting. 


The huge difference between me and those extremist wacko christians depicted in this film is that I do not believe we&#039;ll ever be called back to god in the great rapture, so I actually want to take care of this one world we do have.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are they rejecting Buddha?
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<p>Isn&#8217;t it a matter of rejecting all other religions than christianity?</p>
<blockquote><p>He he &#8230; the funny thing is that there is a Google ad on this page promising to teach me how to speak in tongues :) (Why go to camp?)
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<p>Hehe, I wonder if they teach you how to &#8220;impro&#8221;, and how to make it sound as though there&#8217;s no repeating pattern&#8230;</p>
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<p>At least telling someone that there is a God who loves them and they should help others will actually benefit our world and not harm it as much as the alternatives&#8230;</p>
<p>Basically, I would rather be a Christian told to love others than a Muslim told to kill others.</p>
<p>I would rather be a Christian told to give money to support the poor than a proper businessman told to only care about the bottom line.</p>
<p>So, if all you can do is complain about the ?brainwashed? help that Christians have given the world &#8211; I say you haven?t seen enough of this world yet. ;]</p>
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<p>The idea that <em>good moral</em> values are unique to christians is narrowminded, and makes me want to say <em>you</em> haven&#8217;t seen enough of this world yet. </p>
<p>Every single being, even those of us who are faithless, have a sense of right and wrong (except maybe psychopaths, by definition).</p>
<p>Who says you have to be a christian to donate to charity? I&#8217;ve donated to Amnesty and Unicef on a monthly automated basis for 4 years now, and I&#8217;ve been agnostic one of those years, and atheist the rest. There <em>are</em> actually more types of people than terrorists, christians, and &#8220;proper businessmen that only care about the bottom line&#8221;.</p>
<p>Being godless, I feel a genuine sense of wonder at the complexity of our world. The idea that tiny particles have created plants, animals, people, stars and galaxies is mindboggling and very fulfilling. I suppose some would call this sense of wonder &#8220;god&#8221;, but even as an atheist I can marvel at it, and <em>see</em> why this world is worth protecting. </p>
<p>The huge difference between me and those extremist wacko christians depicted in this film is that I do not believe we&#8217;ll ever be called back to god in the great rapture, so I actually want to take care of this one world we do have.</p>
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		<title>By: goliath</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2007/02/jesus-camp-mini-review/comment-page-1#comment-58360</link>
		<dc:creator>goliath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey david, you also forgot to mention the history of &quot;christians&quot;.  the witch trials, slavery, war, and let&#039;s not forget the real native americans - - basically the only true religion i can think of that doesn&#039;t even kill an insect is buddhism.


all those things you alphabetically mentioned are done by your christian friends. ultimately, this world would be a better place if religion didn&#039;t exist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey david, you also forgot to mention the history of &#8220;christians&#8221;.  the witch trials, slavery, war, and let&#8217;s not forget the real native americans &#8211; - basically the only true religion i can think of that doesn&#8217;t even kill an insect is buddhism.</p>
<p>all those things you alphabetically mentioned are done by your christian friends. ultimately, this world would be a better place if religion didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have pretty much given up on the idea of someone growing up with an unbiased view of life. 

Just look at our world:


A. Someone tells you that you are a monkey on its way to evolutionary oblivion.

B. Someone tells you that America is the great Satan and that you must die for Allah.

C. Someone tells you that you should be in love with someone your same sex.

D. Someone tells you that you are a worthless slave.

E. Someone tells you to hate/kill people of a different color.

F. Someone tells you to do whatever it takes to become rich because that is all life is about.

etc..


At least telling someone that there is a God who loves them and they should help others will actually benefit our world and not harm it as much as the alternatives...


Basically, I would rather be a Christian told to love others than a Muslim told to kill others.

I would rather be a Christian told to give money to support the poor than a proper businessman told to only care about the bottom line.


So, if all you can do is complain about the &quot;brainwashed&quot; help that Christians have given the world - I say you haven&#039;t seen enough of this world yet. ;]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have pretty much given up on the idea of someone growing up with an unbiased view of life. </p>
<p>Just look at our world:</p>
<p>A. Someone tells you that you are a monkey on its way to evolutionary oblivion.</p>
<p>B. Someone tells you that America is the great Satan and that you must die for Allah.</p>
<p>C. Someone tells you that you should be in love with someone your same sex.</p>
<p>D. Someone tells you that you are a worthless slave.</p>
<p>E. Someone tells you to hate/kill people of a different color.</p>
<p>F. Someone tells you to do whatever it takes to become rich because that is all life is about.</p>
<p>etc..</p>
<p>At least telling someone that there is a God who loves them and they should help others will actually benefit our world and not harm it as much as the alternatives&#8230;</p>
<p>Basically, I would rather be a Christian told to love others than a Muslim told to kill others.</p>
<p>I would rather be a Christian told to give money to support the poor than a proper businessman told to only care about the bottom line.</p>
<p>So, if all you can do is complain about the &#8220;brainwashed&#8221; help that Christians have given the world &#8211; I say you haven&#8217;t seen enough of this world yet. ;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anders Rask</title>
		<link>http://noscope.com/journal/2007/02/jesus-camp-mini-review/comment-page-1#comment-58174</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders Rask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He he ... the funny thing is that there is a Google ad on this page promising to teach me how to speak in tongues :) (Why go to camp?)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he &#8230; the funny thing is that there is a Google ad on this page promising to teach me how to speak in tongues :) (Why go to camp?)</p>
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		<title>By: ada</title>
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		<dc:creator>ada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;learning&#039; to speak in tounges?  that&#039;s seems so... oxymoronic
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;learning&#8217; to speak in tounges?  that&#8217;s seems so&#8230; oxymoronic</p>
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		<title>By: James John Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>James John Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To make them even more guilty: Why are they rejecting Buddha?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To make them even more guilty: Why are they rejecting Buddha?</p>
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